Episode 2 - Real Estate by Deborah Levy, a book chosen by Tine Milz

00:00:00: Ok so here we are for the second episode of The Book of Love.

00:00:09: We're today we're in the Old Town of lyric in a square we don't know the name,

00:00:17: somewhere me no marked and longer sets are really beautiful Square lots of trees and a phantom in the middle it was picked by Tina,

00:00:28: who has joined us today and who has picked the book that we're going to talk about today which is.

00:00:40: Real estate by Deborah Levy I'm joined by Angela and I'm joined by Helen Thomas and Emily episode.

00:00:50: And so the book today they believe he is a.

00:00:56: British South African author who was born in 1959 and this book is part of a trilogy it's the Third part.

00:01:04: Are they can you send me your to biographical I guess we can get into those terms a little bit after.

00:01:12: Series the first song is called things I don't want to know which was written in 2013 the second one was called the cost of living.

00:01:22: Written in 2018 and now real estate is from 2021 and.

00:01:32: The whole series but this one in particular is kind of about.

00:01:37: The search for Desire for home in lots of.

00:01:45: Asthma don't like the different aspects there's a kind of desire for real estate as in.

00:01:54: In financial terms then there's a kind of desire for home beyond property or what that means beyond financial term.

00:02:03: And I think these two things also was into play throughout the book kind of them.

00:02:09: Let's say fantasy aspect of what it means to feel at home or where home could be what.

00:02:18: Your fantasy home might look like and the kind of real aspect of what it means to to live and your living conditions.

00:02:28: Having a home and keeping home just to start off why did you pick this book 2.

00:02:35: Why do they put this but it's a good question because I remember it when I bought this book and it was a very special day it was on the 20th of September 2000,

00:02:47: 21 years ago in Kent when I was visiting up repeat,

00:02:55: then I went into like a book shop and I saw this book and it was somehow talking to me and I don't know why I won't accept this very.

00:03:04: Like not very particular cover it's like rats and a woman's shoe and a cold real estate and also the title did not really talk to me but somehow,

00:03:15: it was telling me I have to buy then I read it on the train from Zurich to Venice.

00:03:25: And it really called me because I said very connected to the person who.

00:03:31: Which is maybe the other because it is of course and living on top.

00:03:37: Biography and I like living with someone and travelling with someone and travelling especially with someone in her thoughts because.

00:03:49: Book is a very personal book I think the witch does not want a pretence.

00:03:56: It's like flowing with the Swords of a woman,

00:04:00: who have a lot of desires and was in a very special time in her life that she's short about turning 60 and she reflects on.

00:04:13: How to live as a woman how to work as a woman but also reflects on a lot of.

00:04:21: Philosophical and literature terms,

00:04:25: things that you encounter in her life and that's something that really striking because I often take it out of north and I often wonder how can I sometimes connect all those thoughts,

00:04:37: pick picking up quotes or knowing our that was one of my favourite books or a favourite song and she really.

00:04:44: Travelled with me or let me travel with her and her father,

00:04:48: and sometimes she starts with a song and then ends up with a break up or with like buying shoes and then like thinking about the purple she wants to this I really was very amazed favours,

00:05:02: very intimate way of touching me,

00:05:08: and it's not particularly in intellectual the book and it's not particularly brilliant but it's summer has a very special bond with the woman who.

00:05:22: I started with this book and then I read the first one and then the second one and then I started to read novels so it was a travel backwards on her.

00:05:33: And I thought it's a very nice book to give especially to woman and I gave it to my mum and two also all the friends and they all had like a very special and counter with the book.

00:05:44: So that's why I.

00:05:47: I'm not sure like we did it's not intellectual because it's a really theatrical book and I was wondering whether that was somehow with appealing to you.

00:05:57: It seems like it's friend that one she's telling you about her life but actually I think it's incredibly artificial in the way and the way I noticed it was.

00:06:09: When I was eating it and I think it's really remind

00:06:13: leonora Carrington but that I love and I thinking and then you know 5 pages later she talks about the

00:06:20: play Norah counterfeit that's really interesting remind me when I had more chance you'd read a book

00:06:26: NYPD like the character you'd identify them and then you start to try and talk like that and I like like you think they acted in

00:06:34: spell you know I really felt that that's what she was doing that's what it to me that's what made me realise it was quite teatrical that you felt in a way acting out these women,

00:06:44: from the book and that was that was very literally actually so she somehow encapsulated the rooms of the.

00:06:52: I don't know described in the way that those women writers would describe them and so yeah I thought that was for me that was my favourite part of it that the way she did that there was a real,

00:07:03: artificial nurse which is problematic but also really intriguing at,

00:07:08: that's very that's very funny what you said because I always felt like she's trying out different versions of herself like us,

00:07:18: who am I because of the question she's also having in the spoken how can I write

00:07:23: LEGO female role for a movie there and it feels like she's like also like station her own movie like she's looking back and figuring out like different versions of the characters,

00:07:35: made 12,

00:07:37: write about because the characters she wants to write about this of course herself so and she said Kevin was very weird and also problematic kind of,

00:07:46: dialogue with herself about what is a woman what is not a woman how can I stay two 1 and 60,

00:07:52: and it's also sometimes it's like a bit cliche leg of how she does it but in a way that she somehow very honest to herself like she.

00:08:00: Stages herself in this time love retrospective movies she wants to maybe see her sister alright.

00:08:10: Someone else's phone really like us to do the book there's some familiarity in the way she writes in Bristol,

00:08:19: Over lyrics sometimes where she makes a lot of associations of ideas she said something and then she passed from one thing to another and.

00:08:29: I find that really.

00:08:32: Liberating in the weather to you see that she gives a lot of importance to imagination and to sometimes.

00:08:40: Ways of thinking you think you might be crazy but actually it's a it's a great send it so so.

00:08:47: A good thing to cultivate your own imagination and the fantasy of it's in the house it's connected to relative but I thought I was wondering.

00:08:57: What was it like in the format of the text the fact that it's your heads and then she has to citations.

00:09:07: Which side coming as poems with the dick she said.

00:09:13: It's open set IDS and it's my reflective like it's like small inputs and brings you to somewhere else almost like things she can maybe.

00:09:24: Add transcript to precisely but it comes in dialogue really well I found but something I was always thinking there is something really irritating and about this.

00:09:35: This exaggeration of some things because she's really really funny it's reading Time full to read.

00:09:41: In the west of the personality around your life.

00:09:48: She's very ironical that's because it's kind of the travel book notebook and she says she's like a vagabond.

00:09:57: And I don't know when she's in Paris for instance to where she starts to describe every it's a lot about the everyday details and she starts to describe her groceries what she's dying season there's something,

00:10:11: that starts to be almost annoying about that and I'm sorry it's really like that,

00:10:16: values of the capitalist can I free the tree and she's not so ironic when she speaks about that.

00:10:24: Then when she speaks about other and connectors so they was so from you something which was not so challenging in terms of space also like a dreams of the house,

00:10:34: is it's really like and there is nothing wrong about that but the fact that she's not as ironic,

00:10:40: as the roads like when she picks the house her dream house in the Mediterranean or she starts to,

00:10:48: add a nursery days on the freemax Carlingford to swim in French,

00:10:54: it's a saying and I think it could be like a dick magazine cos she's depicting so for me this was not so challenging maybe what was more challenging it was.

00:11:05: Yeah this is the Venue to imagination in the whole especially as an architect.

00:11:14: Hardest is so part of what is like everything is substance for for you works in her bed.

00:11:25: Yeah I think that's I mean that's really enjoyed because I also had a similar reaction with a safe and a couple of things a bit annoying.

00:11:33: But more actually these this kind of constant referencing but I think.

00:11:38: This discrepancy between kind of the referencing and how she imagines.

00:11:45: She could be or can almost embellishing her own writing with the writing of others and then her actually kind of descriptions of where she is all.

00:11:57: Describing the now and these changes are really smooth and quick I mean sometimes I didn't really I can at some point,

00:12:05: conscious of I tried to be conscious of these transitions from like reference to her situation or the,

00:12:13: the narrator situation now and I always missed it because it was always to the conditions always so smooth and but somehow this this kind,

00:12:21: it being a little bit annoying I was thought was.

00:12:25: Open up a kind of vulnerability that I found quite fascinating like ok you can have know what she's,

00:12:34: she's she's laying out her desire and like kind of saying ok this is what I imagine all this is what,

00:12:42: fantasise about this is what I cannot would like,

00:12:46: and it's it's very Staves and it's very a little bit artificial and you can which is what happens when you're kind of trying to be something you're not quite or you don't know yet what you what you are and they seem to get ready can then be a.

00:13:01: Trinity.

00:13:05: Why do I find the issue of discomfort or annoyance really really interesting because when you were both talking I think it was.

00:13:16: Because she's I mean I think it there are many lasers in the book on watches communicate,

00:13:21: when is the m b like you do when you read write if talking about their lives it's always about travelling and they're going to put launcher,

00:13:28: and I think part of it she's kind of like preventing these reality for that we are part of that we have booked with a board wire readership and then she confronted with my feelings but that's me,

00:13:41: very clever way like a little mirror in a way and challenging you.

00:13:49: Sorry I didn't when you were speaking because I also felt the same I shall we ordered anything,

00:13:55: yeah but that might be it too late I feeling a little bit embarrassed myself but I think it's interesting you are looking for the transition because I I.

00:14:07: You all these places she goes to Athenry to observing it in the different ways they are that it's almost like,

00:14:13: she's she's describing what the stage should be like all the place in describes the place in with the details on the lift but then it's like the reality outside those places doesn't,

00:14:26: really like the actual space of inner theatre that are that are imaginary and then then when you were speaking Emily I was thinking in,

00:14:35: if the perfect brief is she writing the perfect architectural brief I'm making if gription kind of the boundaries of what it is change over time don't know like she changes her mind about things when she can,

00:14:48: quite like to bring into her imaginary Faith so I think it's reading intriguing.

00:14:54: Yeah because maybe that's us before me why she's calling it the Living biography now it's like it's a bit like playing with.

00:15:02: Is this person and what kind of also like a picture we have about like ages of Ryder and travelling a lot and I was also interesting to read it from leg starting with the last book

00:15:15: other two books because the other books that always she's kind of restless I'll send the other books so she's never

00:15:23: she can never really stay at one place I go so that coming from them the first book is about her going out themselves Africa with her dad.

00:15:32: Open prison and her mum then going to London alone and then a second Focus like her hole.

00:15:40: Maya ho break up with her husband

00:15:42: and then she's doing it and then telling the whole break up and it always she's always travelling in time and the like somehow at the places for her only

00:15:57: a start of her thoughts but they are could be also anywhere it's just that the surrounding doesn't matter also like that political circumstances don't matter for her because she's.

00:16:09: More like having a dinner like dialogue with herself or like kind of this living,

00:16:14: swords and of course I'm some of them I like really like a cliche romance like you come on this is like a really like a bush workers share of Ryder and a female like now like I like talking about Simon but somehow it's also like very pure cheese,

00:16:30: so viewable and showing it without

00:16:34: think it's fine you know that somehow course playing with it and of course you would be a night because maybe a trigger or something something in you as a reader because I maybe you'll have to send this item you're not right about it it would be maybe embarrassing because normally.

00:16:50: Covered better I put a better makeup on it and it sounds like that's why I said it's not so intellectual it's quite like it's not like she's like the biggest thing on the planet and small,

00:17:02: you're quite pure and what you do and it's kind of them how embarrassing it cheesy but it's also fine because that's why I somehow like you because,

00:17:13: you're playing with me and you I think you're also lying with me,

00:17:17: but somehow I go along with you in a very weird living way like somehow I'm living with her in.

00:17:25: Like in her head and she's very weird roommate were all a bit embarrassed of but we all kind of like I arrived.

00:17:32: Maybe you're more honest than I would,

00:17:39: everything that you feels almost there is a lack of taking position and the world the fact that it's out of the political and social context in vagabond.

00:17:52: I mean the she not take I was just thinking if she doesn't take it because it is a very I mean there are several parts in the book where she also like this she goes to like a book launch and then she talks about,

00:18:05: a myeloma that takes up loads of space and that actually he can just ask her,

00:18:13: sneering me what she's doing I can't remember exactly what they seem is but it can is very much about her territory as a female or how she can take up space as a female writer they cost of this question space somehow

00:18:26: not only her own personal space but where does this space fit into.

00:18:31: How much is a can of that's a male literary Canon north and yeah.

00:18:40: That's an experience that I mean that thing for all women in any profession,

00:18:45: Fields that have they made we can all identify with that can't be trying to make space for ourselves so I mean I get her a moment so that more.

00:18:56: Universal like that will Universal for women to identify,

00:18:59: play forgotten and you remind me in 30 hours think yes but I mean I just think you mentioned about going backwards I think that's really an interesting idea about South Africa which you know

00:19:14: you know in itself is inescapably political childhood and move and a Monday,

00:19:22: do you think there's any residue that left in the book by the time she gets to the third volume of her autobiography,

00:19:32: does it connect back to anything in the earlier earlier.

00:19:36: Yeah they're little things that are coming back like for example Mother who's dying in the second book and has also in the first book of,

00:19:43: what does a very beautiful house she describes her mother is somehow dying and what's her last connection was her mother and in this book like one of cards,

00:19:54: passage by the way when she talks about her dad that she never somehow missed,

00:20:01: I missed her that until he went back to South Africa and now bean bag in his 90s and they're only real dialogue is that she sent him this pictures of,

00:20:12: melons and he can and he can see on the picture which melon she should

00:20:20: bye and that's something that comes that because these are this very,

00:20:25: special very touching Mum and I like in this book where she really then kind of open up in a very nice wildest other parts that always come back I'll send the first and the second the third.

00:20:39: So this other connecting things were serious personal and she also bride's lot about her dad and the first book and she was not able to.

00:20:52: She was not able to have a loud voice and she wants did not speak for a long time and her child.

00:20:58: So this is also interesting for example when you then read and see that she now then became a writer and she can speak up in a way of.

00:21:06: Also how you friend sorry right but it has a lot to do with her dad being in prison and not being allowed to say a lot of things in South Africa because of parents were of course having an apartheid.

00:21:20: Then her now being a rider like riding and being able to use language.

00:21:30: Interesting that that explains when there's scratches to the book I think you know that the police clothes made very very personal and and if you like the everyday so you really have to.

00:21:45: I know that it's flat into in order to be able to identify it,

00:21:49: I never ever have guessed that but you know you think my must be something quite deeply political in this because.

00:21:57: How can you come from South Africa and not she's white and not have something.

00:22:04: Embedded within you that you can't escape so that that's really helpful thank you say what is a Hornby.

00:22:18: Like having to move the home she had.

00:22:21: Go to London where they always did not feel at home or somehow and then her dad going back so I think she's like somehow looking for this very private maybe very Bush place where she can,

00:22:35: just be also important for her to be with her daughters to give them then how the nest did she may be.

00:22:45: Somehow hair but somehow also missed out of her life so I think that's that's why,

00:22:53: important books because there are a lot of like hens and tracers and also the involving of the writing and how he also has she then,

00:23:06: can a came the rider who she is with the spreadsheet she's using so the warehouse she's also growing up.

00:23:16: But I think it's good to ask for it I mean she also.

00:23:25: This idea of the kind of bourgeois home she also does kind of reflect on that like there's also this errors that think she meets who has you know has the real estate she has real estate.

00:23:40: Her conclusions can involve does she have where is the home I mean,

00:23:45: very simply put but she can have asked herself if you know is real estate does that equal what I what I imagine it to be and kind of my little spoiler or maybe I would be interested if,

00:24:00: read this the same way but I can leave at the end she kind of says like her.

00:24:06: Ideal where she feels at homes in her writing no that's the.

00:24:15: All these questions I can have just open leg ok what is the receipt real estate actually you know what could that be what can a aspire to or that.

00:24:26: There is questions answered and then in the end this is the kind of conclusion of the whole all the.

00:24:34: Following this decided that.

00:24:37: You follow a desired that's interesting facts about house so I can decide house but it could be an idea or could.

00:24:46: Desiring it's really precisely.

00:24:51: Could I have the question how I don't like killing morning to the Architecture in the theatre field if you can say make a connection to your practice.

00:25:05: In your feels.

00:25:08: Rihanna think it went aspect wife might be so if your article said she is a play writer and I think that were her first job she was reading,

00:25:19: for the Shakespeare Company in London so she comes from theatre and she has a lot of scripts so I think maybe,

00:25:26: and I did not know before reading it I found them out after the research which is interesting because she how you also said and she said.

00:25:39: Like station everything and she said really like whether main characters and who what do I need to do to do a very good dramaturgy because she's very good and.

00:25:50: Except like blowing this line up,

00:25:52: what is now the transfer like that transformation you don't get it it's so well made in some way that I think that the connection I admire when it's so smoothly that you then,

00:26:05: how did Deb go something is very weird in the way how she doesn't and also.

00:26:12: The book she's writing in Paris the man who saw everything which is the super political,

00:26:19: of a manhood somehow like travelling back in time and a very weird way to go back to Eastern Germany and it's so.

00:26:30: Very blurry leave it and that you sometimes don't know what is the truth and what is not in what where are you now in like the 80s are you now and like London what's going on so she's agreed.

00:26:43: Very special Rider of like trapping you on 11 ways that you have to find out how you actually ended up in that.

00:26:51: I mean I don't remember you think so much dialogue and you think for the playwright would use a lot of dialogue.

00:26:59: Home ABC if you think the write them the voices of the other writers as dialogue but not actually,

00:27:08: explicitly making dialogue I don't know what to think I have to read it again now to see what these mechanisms are

00:27:16: I don't know I didn't seem to work even however much you concentrate you wondering if invented some way,

00:27:25: create a dialogue situation without actually you think 22.

00:27:33: Human characters having a conversation with her friends with her best friend who has no name,

00:27:48: was mail and she does not name him that's maybe the only person has no name and the book ex-husband also does not have a name,

00:27:58: because this love her hasn't name some that's very interesting who gets the name has no name and she,

00:28:05: has very weird dialogue then with friends about gossiping.

00:28:12: With her friend in blanchardstown gossiping about the tell her she made from slept with her best friend I can get severe.

00:28:20: Interesting that I had to think about for the rich when she writes about gossiping and what's the power of gossip and heard,

00:28:29: Galaxy put in as monarch discuss something sharing secrets that bonding with other women somehow.

00:28:39: I'm just thinking about this is what you said about who's have dialogue in the.

00:28:46: Any ending how she makes how to make the narrative the diet the gossiping make someone kind.

00:28:55: Petit narrative that sleep with human and yeah who's a nice person who is a nice person have in her arrival she has some ambiguity in that was interesting is that with her best but then and then,

00:29:10: like a necklace of places which you know which of the theme feel like I didn't live the beach scene somewhere I know that was the most because that was really the one that you imagine,

00:29:24: some housekeeping off at The Truman Show in,

00:29:27: into a down with it I don't know she is quite fascinating,

00:29:34: things going on at different levels with using different using different mechanisms in order.

00:29:41: To make these layers of narrative writing autobiography means you don't really have to have a now if there's no narrative arc.

00:29:50: The sequences of things isn't it just wondering how much.

00:29:57: She leave to work or she works with how much you know she travels to have substance through two rights that makes me.

00:30:07: Make me think of my own work or as an architect everything can be inspirational for.

00:30:15: Projector for something in.

00:30:18: This makes between your imagination this fantasy worlds you are in your head's under 7 of the stories that go through your head and to reality this time fantastic everything is work from home and.

00:30:34: Yeah because I think the one with this not talk about it.

00:30:39: Of course of first person narration but who's this I know it's like of course it's a straight she is so close to her but it can often not be here,

00:30:49: she caused the living by autobiography so it's never herself it's always like she's always a writer and she's always stating a person she thinks she is,

00:31:00: Marmite things.

00:31:03: I think that's also very interesting because the strategy when you have a first-person narrator is like of course you're very close by.

00:31:11: The eye who tells you but who's this person who tells you so it makes of course very fast the connection to the reader because.

00:31:20: You trust an I'm more than a third person narrator somehow.

00:31:25: So that's an interesting treasure because you're also like ok I trust you and I believe you.

00:31:31: Which is command make it's all build-up in her head of the way of.

00:31:36: How do I put the sentence and of course I put this code no hear it because.

00:31:42: Come on like it's interesting and that's awesome maybe the question of what is working well it's not work because there's told writing about herself is work.

00:31:52: And not work so it's a very interesting straight to this writing her own biography.

00:32:00: And is totally different than for example and it has no who plug Road completely different about her own life.

00:32:08: In the way that she had like a different strategy and the small like I like.

00:32:15: Way of analysing I saw the society through her eyes and that's not what she does she gives you more like a personal interview but maybe it's not heard maybe it's all made up maybe some things are true and some things are not true.

00:32:30: Exactly I just enough and affectionate about it think I should read it but that has all these people in it,

00:32:40: if you want to read it Tina because if you like it here just in London but she starts talking all these different characters come up there's no dialogue.

00:32:51: Main reason friend Agnes came over for a Spritz cocktail she were sparkling green earrings that were almost as blinding as her very white teeth it was 6 p.m.

00:33:04: And we both just finished work a fuse wind was blowing through London the weather forecast,

00:33:13: people have name that storm Eleanor no doubt about it and now what's wrestling the crittall Windows of the Crumlin apartment block in Croydon assertive,

00:33:22: at one point in yes than I thought she might even crack the glass

00:33:27: I made the Spritz with Prosecco comparative tonic and a slice of orange it was a summer drink but it's cos of him stuff there was an internal summer inside me even when I was 30 lift building.

00:33:40: Give the glasses and I said examining the frosted crystal flutes I had button Vienna when I was on a book to it.

00:33:49: I told her I'd learned this trick for my best male friend he always show the glasses and the freezer for margaritas and I'm tempted to make his third wife happy,

00:33:59: actually Nadia preferred smoothies made from kale and celery,

00:34:03: when I finally achieve my grand old house with the pomegranate 3 I would have separate freezers just for chilling glasses recently I had to replace the phantoms in the grounds of this what's the river at the end

00:34:16: the garden my unreal Estate now included a small rowing boat tied to the jetty of Us river,

00:34:24: my friends would drop by and find me sending and varnishing the hours of my boat feed dangling and the cochlea water where the.

00:34:34: In the River definitely what kind of fish

00:34:37: I have not yet got to the stage of identifying them because I had only recently replaced the fan house with a hole tidal river and

00:34:47: what was the name of the boat I would call Edward because sister Rosetta after the African American singer Rosetta tharpe the godmother of rock and roll gospel first electric guitar super

00:35:01: she long been my role model for middle age everything,

00:35:05: I saw some of her performing when she was 49 in railway station in Manchester electric guitar slang over her high coloured code and her

00:35:16: glamorous stiletto heeled shoes were just at my street check varian Elvis and Little Richard had all learn from sister Rosetta,

00:35:25: in the film a friend had said of the forest and beautiful voice she could make you cry and then she made you want to dance I would enjoy painting her name on my phone.

00:35:36: When I told all this too and yes she.

00:35:39: I just don't get why you want a house in the wilderness your custom parts and sort of person you like dressing up and going to parties you like hi you like heel shoes and hike

00:35:49: coats like sister Rosetta in fact you get your best ideas when you're in a crowd so why have you gone rule I mean you're a diva you're always have,

00:35:58: had not yet been told her about the sex sheets Agnes it the Spirits and the Claddagh.

00:36:04: Well Eleanor house through the leopard dilapidated building I noticed that Agnes had more boys than when we last.

00:36:12: Her body had changed she seemed toilets after she smiled more off.

00:36:17: Send should separated from Ruth her long-time partner she told me she had started to feel things again,

00:36:23: sometimes it was good other times bad she glanced at the horses on my windowsill by stormy blue like the Deep Scandinavian Fjords near where she was born.

00:36:34: Apparently Ruth told her she was always on her high horse and wanted to pull her off it the high horse the high horse it was always good to feel woman on her high horse.

00:36:46: Why has Ruth wants to take her down to wear hello,

00:36:51: why bother to put a woman off a high horse stone Ruth I think the high horse is supposed to suggest arrogance or superiority.

00:37:00: I believed it in this case it really meant that Agnes had a sense of her own purpose in.

00:37:05: But she got on with the things she wants to do in the world which is sometimes called the agency or holding the rainfall the high horse and steering.

00:37:13: After all there's no point in climbing onto a high horse you don't know how to ride.

00:37:19: I was fascinated with the high horse and especially when a woman wants to pull another woman off.

00:37:25: Research Spencer long time and Hermione Agnes and a short time loving.

00:37:29: There were 36 animate and 47 when they parted that was a lot of life so obviously the horse has come out to play.

00:37:38: Agnes told me that since she had moved out of the house she shared with.

00:37:42: Former partner she had a very weird desire to wear real Emerald earrings turn for some rock

00:37:49: explain that she did not want emeralds to make any sort of statement about Wells she was not wealthy know what she wanted in middle age was Stones that have come from deep within the Earth and that sparkle is she needed lost,

00:38:04: she would gays into the windows of jewellers and

00:38:07: no they're too small even though she could not afford emeril's the size of a pinhead lying in there little velvet coffin.

00:38:16: We wondered if rocks cut out of the Earth will somehow connected to Blood and Bone and the beginning of time.

00:38:22: But then I pointed out that she did not want to work colon her ears and call it was also human out of the Earth.

00:38:29: So anyway it she continued pointing to her.

00:38:33: These will do for the time being she had bought herself green crystal earrings that were an imitation of the Emerald she wanted the glitter on her ears.

00:38:41: Yes she would have lost her as she rode on her high horse down the North Circular to repair a smashed screen at Mr cell phone.

00:38:51: I reckon it was time to tell her about the silk sheets and when I did she insisted on having a look at.

00:39:00: So actually Lake time is good and I think it's quite nice to end on unless anyone else wants to say.

00:39:10: Ok thank you.